We are in Warriewood which has no NBN planned. Been with Telstra for 1.5 years and was super rubbish. ADSL download of .31mpbs and upload of .36mpbs. After some research switched to tpg. Just did the same test and pleased to confirm a load better. Download now 1.12mpbs and upload .80mpbs. What a difference... and i think it is cheaper as well.